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{"id":2632,"date":"2022-12-27T09:10:18","date_gmt":"2022-12-27T08:10:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tobeornot.fr\/?p=2632"},"modified":"2023-01-06T16:36:13","modified_gmt":"2023-01-06T15:36:13","slug":"je-nai-jamais-donne-comme-ca","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tobeornot.fr\/?p=2632","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab&nbsp;Je n&rsquo;ai jamais donn\u00e9 comme \u00e7a&#8230;&nbsp;\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tobeornot.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"72\" height=\"72\" data-attachment-id=\"2637\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/tobeornot.fr\/?attachment_id=2637\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tobeornot.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image.png?fit=72%2C72&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"72,72\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tobeornot.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image.png?fit=72%2C72&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/tobeornot.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image.png?resize=72%2C72&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2637\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Ce samedi 24 d\u00e9cembre, telle M\u00e8re No\u00eblle pour les Petits fr\u00e8res des pauvres, je me pr\u00e9sentai \u00e0 Ben, rwandais, la soixantaine, incarc\u00e9r\u00e9 \u00e0 la prison de Fresnes, avec une \u00e9norme enveloppe papier Kraft sous le bras, en lieu et place d&rsquo;une hotte sur le dos, afin de lui offrir, \u00e0 la gr\u00e2ce d&rsquo;une autorisation sp\u00e9ciale, son cadeau tant convoit\u00e9\u00a0: non point des barrettes de shit, mais une pile de magazines &#8211; tous les\u00a0<em>La Vie<\/em>\u00a0et mes\u00a0<em>La Croix<\/em>, mis fraternellement de c\u00f4t\u00e9 pour lui, durant les quatre derni\u00e8res semaines de l&rsquo;Avent. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>C&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;ennuie \u00e0 mourir, Ben, dans sa cellule, que jamais il ne quitte, meubl\u00e9e d&rsquo;une seule t\u00e9l\u00e9 pour lui tenir compagnie entre deux visites de sa femme, tous les deux mois. \u00ab&nbsp;Vous n&rsquo;auriez pas des journaux \u00e0 me passer&nbsp;?, me demanda-t-il un jour, tandis qu&rsquo;en l&rsquo;attendant au parloir j&rsquo;en feuilletais un.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Oui, mais&#8230; sont plut\u00f4t&#8230; un rien, un peu, enfin j&rsquo;veux dire&#8230; kto&#8230; Et puis, supputais-je, vu son pr\u00e9nom, si vous \u00eates musulman&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Ah non, encore mieux&#8230; ! Moi aussi suis chr\u00e9tien&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Alors patientez, attendez, promis, quand je reviendrai&#8230;&nbsp;\u00bb &#8230; Quatre semaines apr\u00e8s&#8230;&nbsp;<em>Venez, venez, venez \u2026,&nbsp;<\/em>enjoint un chant d&rsquo;Eglise&nbsp;:&nbsp;il n&rsquo;est rien de dire que nous \u00e9tions attendues comme le Messie, ma venue comme mes revues&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aussi, ce matin-l\u00e0 : \u00ab\u00a0Merci&nbsp;! Merci&nbsp;!\u00a0\u00bb, ne cessait-il de r\u00e9p\u00e9ter, avec son accent, en roulant les &#8211;<em>r<\/em>, si joyeux  d&rsquo;\u00eatre l&rsquo;heureux destinataire d&rsquo;un si gros paquet.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab&nbsp;Il faut que je vous dise, Madame Delphine, je sais que vous \u00eates catholique, vous savez&#8230; je suis \u00e9vang\u00e9lique&#8230; Eh bien je suis tr\u00e8s impressionn\u00e9 car c&rsquo;est la premi\u00e8re fois qu&rsquo;on me donne comme \u00e7a&#8230; Et je n&rsquo;ai jamais donn\u00e9 comme \u00e7a&#8230; Je veux dire gratuitement, sans rien recevoir en retour&nbsp;; je veux dire&#8230; \u00e0 des \u00e9trangers, \u00e0 un inconnu&#8230;, comme vous faites&#8230; Je savais m\u00eame pas que \u00e7a existait, que c&rsquo;\u00e9tait possible&#8230; Vous me montrez autre chose&nbsp;! Avec vous, avec Arnaud et David, avec vous les b\u00e9n\u00e9voles, je d\u00e9couvre autre chose&#8230;&nbsp;: vous donnez du temps, vous donnez de l&rsquo;attention, vous nous donnez des cadeaux, \u00e0 nous, des \u00e9trangers, qui sommes en prison ! C&rsquo;est quelque chose d&rsquo;incroyable qui me bouleverse. Moi, j&rsquo;ai jamais fait \u00e7a dans ma vie&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&rsquo;ai toujours donn\u00e9. Toujours. Beaucoup. Mais \u00e0 ma famille&nbsp;! A ma femme&nbsp;! A mes enfants&nbsp;! Aux \u00e9vang\u00e9liques ! Mais \u00e0 des inconnus, \u00e0 des \u00e9trangers, \u00e0 des gens que je ne connais pas&#8230; jamais, jamais, jamais.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je n&rsquo;y ai m\u00eame jamais pens\u00e9 Madame Delphine, j&rsquo;vous jure, j&rsquo;vous dis \u00e7a comme \u00e7a&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais j&rsquo;vous le promets, demain, quand je sortirai, j&rsquo;vous jure Madame Delphine, comme vous je ferai&#8230; A mon tour, aussi, je donnerai comme vous faites, comme \u00e7a, juste comme \u00e7a&#8230; Car je crois que c&rsquo;est vraiment \u00e7a \u00eatre chr\u00e9tien, pas chanter, pas les sermons, les grands discours, mais des actes, aller voir l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger, son prochain, juste lui donner quelque chose comme \u00e7a, m\u00eame quand on n&rsquo;a rien. 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